#139 Showcasing Leadership in College Admissions with Lee Norwood Transcript

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Lisa Marker Robbins 00:26

In today’s episode, we’re diving into common misconceptions about extracurricular activities and how to effectively showcase leadership for college admissions. I’m thrilled to be joined by Lee Norwood of college sharks, an independent educational consultant who supports families navigating the college admissions process. In our conversation, Lee dispels the myth that students need to fill all 10 activity slots on their college applications. Instead, we’ll focus on the importance of quality over quantity, emphasizing depth of meaningful activities rather than a long list of superficial ones, Lee will also share creative ways to demonstrate leadership beyond traditional titles and highlight accomplishments in an impactful way. You’ll likely finish this episode realizing your teen has more leadership experience than you imagined, and you’ll have ideas for furthering their leadership experiences, whether your team is just starting to explore extracurriculars or looking to enhance their college application, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice. I’m Lisa Marco Robbins, and I want to welcome you to College and Career Clarity a flourish coaching production. Let’s dive right in to a great conversation.

Lisa Marker Robbins 01:48

Lean Norwood, my friend, thank you for being here. You are a wealth of wisdom. I’m so excited to have you and your college sharks wisdom. Here I

Lee Norwood 01:59

am. I’ve been following the podcast for a long time, and I always let I know I will have arrived when I get to be a guest of Lisa’s. So thank you so much. I’ve enjoyed meeting you and learning things from you, and I’m excited here, and I hopefully the listeners will learn a little something from me. Oh,

Lisa Marker Robbins 02:18

I think they’re going to learn a lot from you and I know we were talking offline ahead of time about, you know, we both in in the things that we do to support families in their teens future, we see a lot of families that have, like these misconceptions and mistakes, and this really becomes, actually, I could just do a podcast about all the misconceptions and myth busting, and every week, have an episode. And so for you and the work that you’re doing and what we were talking about offline, we have a special one we want to dive right into today. And what would you say that that misconception is,

Lee Norwood 03:00

again, you’re right. I could do a lot of podcasts on on misconceptions. I think that parents and students really think when they’re completing the common app, and this is relevant right now, because right, a common app is about to come back up online, everybody’s going to start filling in their basic information, and in that is your 10 activities, right? I think it’s a misconception that you have to have 10, yeah. So

Lisa Marker Robbins 03:26

let’s back up for a second, and I want to say something about that, because, okay, so we’re recording this the day before the common app goes live, and if our listeners are like, Well, I have a sophomore. I don’t need to listen to this. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, they you if you have a high schooler, whether they’re applying to college now, because this episode’s gonna go live, you know, right as the school year starting, if you have a senior, rising senior, now, you need it, because they’re gonna do this. And if you have a freshman, sophomore junior, this is like, you’re giving kind of a master class on how to think about activities and extracurriculars so that you don’t get to be your senior year when the common app goes live on August 1 every year. Some of our listeners might not know that, and so you’re going to give a kind of a master class here on like, how do we need to be thinking about this actually, as early on as possible? And so the first thing I just heard was, there’s 10 activities that you can list, right? But what do people falsely believe? I

Lee Norwood 04:34

think that people feel that they need to complete all 10 of those activities, and if they don’t have 10 activities, then they’re missing something. So I have a couple of rules when it comes to filling out the 10 activities, or thinking about what 10 activities you’re going to in the future showcase to show who you are to a college one is 10, not 10 does not need to be 10. You. The second is, sports take up time. If you’re a 2123, sport, athlete, colleges know that that’s what you’re doing majority of your time. I’ll just on a little tangent. Football. You know, you start a bathing suit and you end in a perca. There’s not a lot of time to do other things. So it’s not that you have to have 10 it’s that you need to write up the things that you are doing in a compelling way. It shows leadership. I

Lisa Marker Robbins 05:27

have a question about the sports thing. I will have students say to me, I’ve never played a sport like actually, even the word like activities or extracurriculars is one that I often feel like there’s some misconceptions about what counts as an activity. But a common question, since you just brought up sports, is, well, I I’m not a student athlete. I haven’t played any sports. Is that a problem? And because we know that, like so what I just heard is, if you’re an athlete, you’re not going to probably have time for 10, right? That’s time consuming. And then on the other side of that is, do I have to have played a sport in high school?

Lee Norwood 06:09

I think that that’s a great thing to talk about and to dovetail into we’re going to get we’re going to get back to leadership. Every single thing we talk about today is going to dovetail back into leadership? No, you do not need to blade a sport to be a compelling candidate to a college, right? The second thing is that leadership has a lot of different ways that you can show it. If you babysit, that’s the ultimate form of leadership. Someone has given you their child to take care of. Don’t underestimate that that is not something that’s super important. And leadership doesn’t mean you have a title. Doesn’t mean you’re President or Vice President. You can showcase it in lots of different ways. So when we look at those activities, we want to show and not tell. We want to know that 10 doesn’t mean 10, and we want to be able to just account for what we did in our free time. That’s really the goal of this. Then out of that, it let’s back up even further. What is a college looking for? They’re looking for a kid who’s going to come to their school, get in and out in four years, absolutely thrive, hopefully do something really cool that makes the college an even better place for the next generation. Be an alumni that’s super stoked to where, you know, the college colors that say I was a tar hero or UCLA, and then they want you to donate money, because you’re happy, right? So they want to know that you’re going to come here, you’re going to fit, you’re going to love it, you could do some cool stuff. You’re gonna join the alumni committee and you’re gonna write a chat. Let’s just call it the business, right? It’s the business college, so it really is, yeah, and leave me the day after you graduate, you’re gonna get this wonderful opportunity to donate, right? So when, if I put on my college admissions hat and I’m looking for who is going to do well, at my college, at my university, I’m going to go to their activities. Of course, you’ve got your there’s like seven things that colleges really look for. We could talk about this a million times, but when you come down about the fourth one, it’s leadership in a few impactful activities. So let’s really focus on those few and what you do in your free time. I’ve got some great examples of kids that I was like, gosh, I’m gonna write this up, and we can really turn that around in a lot of different ways. So

Lisa Marker Robbins 08:32

viewer that are deeper, that you’re showing leadership. Is it okay if, like, there are things on those 10 that don’t have leadership involved. Like, would you still put something where and I know you’re going to talk a little bit more about, like, leadership doesn’t mean that you’re the president of the club or the founder or the team captain. Like, it can look in a lot of different ways, which I want to hear more about. But if, if a student’s sitting here thinking, because I come up against this a lot, where kids will say, like, one of the misconceptions, or they’re misdefining What an activity is, and they’re saying to themselves, it has to be like a school sport, a school club, and no, it’s anything that you do outside of the seven, eight hour academic day, that you’re sitting in classroom and taking classes and going to lunch and have a study hall and all the things, anything that you’re doing, it doesn’t have to be on the school campus, right? So that’s, I think that’s a mistake. But then, as you’re talking about leadership, I want to hear a little bit more about, like, how leadership doesn’t have to have a title, and if I’m just, I really like my French club, and I’m not, I’m not at all a leader. Like, there’s no way I could make it sound like I’m a leader. Should I still put it on the activities list?

Lee Norwood 09:57

Okay, gosh, there’s so much to talk about. We got. Yeah, or whatever. So here is my little tip, my asterisk, like, if you don’t listen to anything else today, listen to this when a common app opens, whether you’re going to be filling it out as a senior or whether you’re just looking at it. Go to the activity section, click the drop down menu and look at the categories. They won’t just say club or other. They have things like cultural, they have things like business. They have all these different categories that will get your creative juices flowing and talk to your parents because they think you’re way cooler than you do. They remember everything you did from the time you were two years old. So Don’t, don’t, not let them remind you of the great things you’ve done. If you’re gaming and you’re doing video games and that’s your thing, you know, maybe you’re helping other people figure out how to win. Maybe that’s game strategy. We’ve had a lot of different kids do a lot of different things. Your your culture, your activities might be really deep in your church or in an organization you’re in with other kids. When we talk about leadership, let’s just say you are in a sport and you’re the best bench warmer on the entire team. If you have team meetings, and there’s something you could do with those team meetings, we always talk about, let’s, let’s, we’re going to stop, start and continue. We’re to turn the volume down on some things, because I don’t want you to just be busy likes crazy enough. I want you to turn the volume up on things. You love being a part of that team. You love riding the bench and cheering your teammates on it at those team dinners each season. You have a coat drive, or you have a group you grew out of your shoes. Therefore everybody’s going to bring gently used equipment to the next team meeting, and you’re going to donate. There’s a great organization called leveling the playing field. If you do sports at any level work, you just want your kids to clean out the garage. It’s a great place to take all that gently.

Lisa Marker Robbins 11:56

Is that a NAT that? Is that a national organization?

Lee Norwood 11:59

Oh yeah, it’s national. It’s called leveling the playing field.

Lisa Marker Robbins 12:03

I’ll link to it in the show notes. Oh, it’s just

Lee Norwood 12:05

so amazing they you know, and I don’t want to just focus on sports, but yeah, they do say that when you play a team sport, you learn a lot of other skills, and it doesn’t mean you have to be the point guard. If you’re learning to work in a group, you’re learning to be a team. You’re going to communication. And a lot of schools don’t have the funding to field a team, so call it. What level the playing field does is they get this gentle sports equipment to underfunded schools so that they can feel the team. And most kids do have an opportunity to to do that, and also you have an opportunity if you donate to them, to go on some of their sports days and help kids play the sport

Lisa Marker Robbins 12:44

I love. Well, I love that idea, like, if you like, you just said, like, if somebody’s a bench warmer, and that’s a reality. Like, my 26 year old son ran cross country for six years junior high and high school. He was always in the middle of a pack, and he had a terrible stress fracture at the beginning of his senior year, and so he wasn’t going to get any accolades for being a runner, but it served him well, like it helped him manage his time. He was part of a team. He enjoyed it. He was with good kids. There were so many things that came out of it, and when I sometimes I say, like, Be the one who to your point, like, spearhead a team charitable event, right? You don’t have to win the sports thing. I want to go back to something you said, because I think the timing of it’s great, particularly if somebody has a freshman, sophomore or junior kid. You said, What are you going to stop doing? What are you going to start doing? What are you going to continue doing? And maybe, like, level it up, right, right? And so I teach the same thing, like in my college major and career coaching course. I want kids to do something like, if you you know, I had a kid a few years ago who loved rec swimming. He was never going to win any awards. It wasn’t going to teach him if he wanted a career, but he loved it. And I said, keep doing that. Like we got to do some things that just light us up, right, without like, an additional purpose. But I’m always advising, like, what are you doing? Also, that can further your clarity on your future career in college major, right? And so if you’re if you did a dozen or half a dozen informational interviews and job shadows like that, can go into your activities,

Lee Norwood 14:32

1,000% the fact that you showed interest in something and you used your time to learn more about it, that is an activity. I had a student who was absolutely certain that they wanted to be a physician. So they went and did an internship at the local hospital, and in two weeks, they said, Oh Heck to the no, this is absolutely not what I want to do. That is just as valuable as it ensuring that it is year two. Teacher, and you can write that up. You tried something only to find out, and maybe it wasn’t you.

Lisa Marker Robbins 15:07

I You know what, I want to just say something real quick about that, because I think, and I see adults do this as well, most of my listeners now, I do some I do executive business coaching as well, and I even see this, this is hard for so I want kids to understand this is hard for us, that our adult ages to do this is hard for their parents, but something happens, and it doesn’t work out. Like, you’re like, Oh, that’s a failure, and it doesn’t belong on my resume or my No, like, if there’s a lesson in it. And in that case, with that physicians, the kid who thought he wanted to be a physician went in there and went, No, no, right away. That’s so valuable, because a you did something so that you’re poised to make an informed decision. But there’s a lesson in it. As long as there’s a lesson in it, even if you decide, like, I’m never doing that again,

16:00

that works, yes, and it’s, it’s, it works in dating too. There’s a lot of things, picking a college and picking up a spouse again, a lot of similarities. So, you know, you learn what you don’t want to do. So back to the 10, right? Yeah, you don’t need to have 10 activities, if you think of a newspaper, and this is old school, right where all of us are on tablets and stuff now, but the things the news about the fold was what was important, what is right there on the front page? So I want you to think of your top four activities. I want them to be relevant. I want them to show that they were time consuming you didn’t just do them once. And I want to start with your most recent and then go backwards. So let’s just start with those four, and let’s see, how can we turn the volume up on those four? In that first read that an admissions counselor officer does, they may only get to those first four. So let’s make those have impact. If you don’t have temp, that’s fine. Second problem that I sometimes see or mistake, is that I have kids that have 25 things, yeah, has, and they were very pushed from beginning to do A, B, C, D, E, F, G, oh, and then I do another this. And then who are you going to tell there’s not enough space? A lot of colleges don’t even allow an external resume to go with the application. So unless you can write about it in your supplemental essays, which probably a whole other talk that you’re going to have, can you just do less? Let’s stop doing things that you don’t like, that don’t resonate with you. It’s okay. Let’s continue doing stuck in love and turn the volume up. You’re already working on your doing something with a team or with a club or in your neighborhood. See a problem, solve a problem, tell them about it and quantify it. Did you add five new members to the club? Did you make 400 cookies? Did you scare 20 children when you’re painting clown faces at the fair. We want to monetize and give numbers to what you did so that it has impact. Nobody needs you to explain what a National Honor Society project is all the admissions authors know. I want to know what your project was, what impact you need, and what problem you saw and you solved. You can do that in your community. Here’s another super tip. Here’s my second really super secret chip. You all get a local newspaper, open it up. They’re going to celebrate the sports kids and the teams that won when we know that, but they’re also going to be celebrating kids who did cool things, that got awards. Organizations that need things like maybe the local food bank is slow on supplies, look through that, get motivated by other kids in your community that are being covered in that paper. What the community needs, ways that you can help and then acting pal, write a quick press release. They’ll probably cover you in the next issue. Absolutely like

Lisa Marker Robbins 18:55

it’s good. They would way rather, they would way rather highlight a kid making waves than adults, right? You know, if you’re talking about this, particularly if you’ve got a an underclassman, a freshman, sophomore, junior, I’m like picturing an activity in my brain that families could do. So you said one piece of advice you gave. And I think some of our listeners might not know that you can go ahead and@commonapp.org create your account now, even if, I mean, if you had a newborn, you could create their account now you would, we would not advise that that would maybe be a sign of a problem. But so if you have a high schooler, create your common account, go to that activity section, which is in the main common app, and look at that drop down menu to see how admissions officers are thinking about activities like what different kind of like buckets or labels that they can give them. Then maybe do. I’m going to call it with your you know. Are you going to stop, start, continue, level up, do, like, an extracurriculars audit, because I did just hear you say, like, there are some things they probably need to let go that they’re just doing it to check a box, and it’s really not telling a lot about who they are or where they’re headed. And so the start of the school year for anybody, any age, is a great time to audit their extracurriculars list and then, and then go over to your newspaper and get inspired. If you’re going like that audit probably is going to bring about some gaps, right? So that common app in that newspaper activity you just gave us sounds like it could inspire brainstorming on how to fill the gaps 100% and

Lee Norwood 20:47

then, if you know what you want to do, we really think you know what you want to be first. I’ll congratulate you, because I didn’t figure it up. So it was 52 but if you really do now, doing some activities that show interest in that is a really awesome thing. Like we all know that you can go to law or medical school, and it doesn’t matter what you majored in or graduate. You just need to graduate at the top of your class and have the prerequisite classes. But if you do really think that you want to go into some sort of public policy or this or that, it would look great if you did a little internship with your State Senator. They all have to do, I think, 20 tours a year for the youth. It’s part of their outreach in every state. Every one of your state senators has to do this. Go do it, because now that’s my going to be my third tip of advice is, if you do have a strong interest in something, go and explore it. People love to be asked for help. They love to talk about what they do. You can interview people about what they do to find out things that’s an activity that’s just showing interest, and what it’s showing me as a reader. So the college application is, this kid is inquisitive. This kid’s a go getter. This student is not afraid to fail, and the student knows how to lead without a title. That means that when you come to my college, you probably need to do all the same things, and hopefully you’ll be a resident assistant. I’m a huge fan of Resident Assistants. Will that manage the freshmen?

Lisa Marker Robbins 22:16

Yeah. Talk about that? Like, yeah. Like, what are you a huge fan of that for when they’re going to college?

Lee Norwood 22:25

Well, aka, probably because I was one, and I think I was the coolest one that ever lived.

Lisa Marker Robbins 22:30

You probably were.

Lee Norwood 22:31

I was a, I was a good Ra, so the RAS get a bum rap right now. You know, oh, they’re the police. Are the ones that are going to cattle on you. Oh, if you have a drink in your room, blah, blah, blah, so you’re afraid or, Oh, they just do the dumbest activities. I’m not going to participate. Okay, come on. They are there because they love the school. They are totally psyched to get free room aboard, because that’s what they get for being now an RA at most schools. But they want to show the school up to you. I mean, I had events with this hall of girls. I helped some girls go through the rush process. I helped some girls like stay motivated for sports. I helped some girls just navigate the fact that that neither of those two things were for them. I helped kids get through those tough times in that freshman year that they all have. And I was a student leader. I mean, I knew all of the big weeks at the college because I was in charge of a hall at the school. And I you gotta, I love I love that, and they want leaders to be RAS

Lisa Marker Robbins 23:32

Well, here’s what I love about what you just said, I think. And I would say this is probably another misconception we could add to the list again, maybe we will start a whole new podcast or discomission, myth bust every one week, right? Myth Busting. So what you just a lot of families think, or teens think, like, I get to the point where I’m hitting submit on my college applications in the fall of my senior year, and like, whoo, it’s easy street. I’m finished, and what I preach in my college major and career coaching course is no, no, this is lifelong work, and so we don’t just skate through senior year. And let’s just tie back what you said about being an RA, besides the fantastic benefit of free room and board for any family who’s thinking like, how are we going to pay for college? Like, that’s, you know, a whole nother topic, right? But that could be a strategy for paying for college. But you’re, you’ve got to be thinking about extracurriculars beyond high school graduation, because we still need to have extracurriculars, whether those are internships or clubs like those, opportunities still exist, and now they probably need to start becoming a little bit well, not probably they need to start becoming a little bit more targeted on now you’re actually starting to build your resume of getting a job, right? Yes, and employers, so. Still, since I’m a career coach, you know, I know that employers still love if you’re doing charitable work, if you’re involved in leading an organization, but they’re really now going to look for like even more closely. What are you doing to show that you’re going to be successful in the field that you’re pursuing, right? But extracurriculars don’t end just because we hit submit. So and what I keep hearing, the theme that I keep hearing from you, is like leadership. So let’s talk a little bit. I know we said we don’t have to be a leader of everything, and being a leader doesn’t mean that there’s, you know, a title with it. How do you have some tips? Like, as we’re starting to wrap up, like, Do you have tips around leadership so that, particularly, I get this all the time, like, I have a super introverted child. You know, a parent will say, like, my kids super introverted. They are. They’re not outspoken, they’re intimidated by speaking up or by leading, but yet, I hear everybody saying, you have to be a leader. Do you have tips for that average kid that’s not necessarily Ivy bound and president of their high school,

Lee Norwood 26:15

and that’s my favorite kid, and I would suggest that all of you go watch the men’s Olympics right now and find the introvert on the gymnastics team right introverts are some of my favorite people. They’re just not out there streaming it. So that is where you want to do some deep reflection. And I would love to stay on and telling everything I have a really cool video chat that we do on leadership that might help some people. Oh, can

Lisa Marker Robbins 26:43

we share that with our listeners? Oh, yeah, totally, absolutely. We

Lee Norwood 26:47

the college sharks. We try to help to take a bite out of college admissions by giving you one little chunk at a time and and as you just watch that one on leadership, I think it’ll clear a lot of things up and a lot of those myths. Okay, why

Lisa Marker Robbins 26:59

don’t we do this when we get off, if you can send me that link, we’ll put it in the show notes. You know what? We’ll just create a shortcut URL, and we’ll just call it flourish coaching co.com forward slash leadership. And we’ll just so that way our listeners, if you’re driving, please don’t try to write this down. You know, go to the flourish coaching website, and this put in forward, slash leadership, and then that hopefully will give them some tools to sit down and I mean, do you suggest kids watch it by themselves? Watch it with their parents? Watch it independently, discuss it like, what would be the the best way to do that? I

Lee Norwood 27:36

think it’s like 12 minute long. So yes, and both. Okay, so it’s so short, but I think it’ll give you a little bit of a perspective that leadership is not just a title, being a part of a team, being part of a community, being a leader in your own family, being a leader in your culture, being a leader in a language difference, maybe your parents don’t speak English, and you’re a leader in your family, of helping your immigrant family assimilate into where you live. Now, leadership is so broad, and I think you know, you could talk about it for that second,

Lisa Marker Robbins 28:16

wow. It’s a lifelong right? It’s one of those lifelong skills. It is something employers are going to look for. You know, as a career coach, I know that, and I think the the name of it alone is so intimidating that kids just quickly, like, tap out, like, that’s not for me. I can’t I’m not going to do that. But okay, so everybody go to flourish, coaching, co.com, forward, slash leadership. And then we’ve got some tips to help you think about leadership differently and work on your leadership. I mean, that’s one of those soft skills today. I

Lee Norwood 28:56

don’t need to interrupt, but, yeah, you’re leading. You don’t even know you’re eating. People are watching. Your brothers and sisters are watching. We’re seeing you do things. Maybe you’re tutoring somebody. Maybe you’re just kind, and you sit at the right lunch table. Yeah, because you’re kind, those things matter. I’m going to share two of my coolest things. Can I that show ship for kids that were interns? Yeah, I mean, introvert. One kid loved video games, loved music, but he also loved being a lifeguard. And I was thinking, okay, gosh, how are we gonna make this bigger? As during his lifeguarding time, he played great music at the pool. So he got his music part and and he collected used life jackets. So if you’re a boater, everybody knows, nobody wants infants and kids on their boats. It’s a pain in the butt. So as soon as your kids outgrow the life jackets, you want them off. So he collected life jackets. Here he’s a lifeguard, or she lived in a water community. He’s collecting. Life jackets, and then we realize that it’s voter Safety Month, we reach out to them and write oppressions. He’s covered on voter safety month for wearing the jacket. Guess what? The school system follows him. Says, Hey, in our drown proofing, do you want to be our spokesperson? It’s Parker going wear it at the end all of the public schools, yes. So he was doing what he loved. We turned the volume a little. We got him some press coverage. He is kicking it at University of Florida right now, and you know he was we had to expand what his comfort zone was. My second favorite. It’s funny that we did both boys, but he’s like, I don’t do anything else summer. I have to clean these apartments because his mom managed short and long term rentals in the town of Annapolis, right? So what is his job? He got to clean up the apartments when people left. And I said, Well, do they ever, like, leave stuff like, you know, they bought custard and mustard and they never had the the cookout, so it’s never, it hasn’t been opened, and then they’re flying home. They’re not taking over them. I’m like, why don’t we just start collecting stuff that can be used again, right? Like paper channels weren’t open this and that he started depart share. We had bags made that when people checked into these long and short term stays, like, kind of an Airbnb, yeah, it said with the note, this is who I am. This is my project that I’m doing through high school. I will be the one cleaning the place. If you have anything that you would like to leave for to enhance someone else’s life, please put it in this bag. Oh, my God. And he donated it to appropriate places. We had shampoo, you know, personal hygiene products, again, catch up their mustard, revise too much, and it just really brought everything full circle. So those are two kids that were very introverted, that were able to really think through what is a problem. How are we going to solve it? And then, of course, I’m a huge advocate of local press releases and all of your local communities. And you know, there’s usually a family magazine where you live right in a showcase kids doing cool stuff, yeah, even if it’s checking the pH in the water every day, because you live on a stream to make sure that the water bacteria one also, right? That’s not allowed activity. But, man, that looks good on the college but

Lisa Marker Robbins 32:19

if you’re in, if you’re interested in anything like environmental science or engineering or marine biology or like, that would just fit? You know that would be perfect. Well, I know you’ve inspired people. Thank you for sharing the link to the leadership lesson, and I know we’re gonna have to have you back, because you said you’ve got the seven, the seven things that admissions officers are really looking for, and we did a deep dive on number four, but there’s a lot more to come, so we’ll have you back families for sure. Go watch the leadership lesson, and really think outside the box. Lee, thanks for being on you

Lee Norwood 33:05

got it, and I have to tell you, I can’t wait to be on the first episode, because I think we can all learn from mistakes that kids, students, parents and even college coaches like me have made over time, and that’s the best way to learn. Experience is the greatest teacher. I loved being with you this morning. Thank you so much. Thankfully.

Lisa Marker Robbins 33:25

Take care. Yeah.

Lisa Marker Robbins 33:33

Thank you to Lee for sharing her expertise on extracurricular activities in leadership. I hope our discussion has given you a clearer understanding of how to showcase your team’s unique strengths and interests effectively. As we wrap up, I encourage you to watch Lee’s complimentary video lesson on leadership. Head over to Florence coaching co.com forward slash leadership to gain more insights into how your team can demonstrate leadership skills in their college applications. If you found today’s episode helpful, please share with a friend who might benefit from it, and don’t forget to rate and review the podcast to help us reach more families with valuable insights and support. Thank you for listening to the College and Career Clarity podcast, where we help your family move from overwhelmed and confused too motivated, clear and confident about your teen’s future. I’m Lisa Marco Robbins, and until next time, keep striving for clarity and confidence in your teen’s college journey. You.